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New toll tarrifs for Germany (dec2023 / july2024)

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 2:31 pm
by Bernd Welter
Hi there,

some of you may have noticed the article Predicting new toll prices for Germany on the dev blog or my post on linked in.
At least I've recently been asked several times by partners about how to apply this in PTV xServer2 / PTV xServer2 Internet. Looks like some of you have already tried to evaluate the updated prices for the German National Toll.

Well the answer in the scope of "September 4th, 2023" is:
  • So far this has been activated for PTV Developer.
  • It is a prediction - not an official released tarrif!
  • For xServer2 you have to wait for an update to v2.30 (released but not yet installed) AND a data update (not pushed on the Content Update Service so far). Afaik the update for the engine on PROD is supposed to be completed (*) on september 19th, 2023.
Bernd

(*) = "completed" means "successfully updated on all prod systems (EU, US, AU...)"

Re: New toll tarrifs for Germany (dec2023 / july2024)

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 1:48 pm
by Bernd Welter
Impact of 1.12.2023 on trucks. Did already pay toll. Will have to pay way more toll... (from 126€ to 214€ = plus 70%!)
Impact of 1.12.2023 on trucks. Did already pay toll. Will have to pay way more toll... (from 126€ to 214€ = plus 70%!)
Impact of the new tarrifs for small vehicles (van with total weight about 3.6t) : from zero to hero... changes on 1.7.2024. So far no toll applies - then it will be expensive
Impact of the new tarrifs for small vehicles (van with total weight about 3.6t) : from zero to hero... changes on 1.7.2024. So far no toll applies - then it will be expensive

Re: New toll tarrifs for Germany (dec2023 / july2024)

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:22 am
by Bernd Welter
Meanwhile the xServer v2.30 is available on XSI TEST

Whether the required toll data is already available in the map can be checked through Configuration.

In the context of 7.9.2023 the data is NOT YET on test...
GermanNationalToll-v2.30.png

Re: New toll tarrifs for Germany (dec2023 / july2024)

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:42 am
by Lauterfeld
Hi Bernd,
There will be a new parameter “CO2emissionclass” for toll calculation.
  • What does that mean exactly for on premise xRoute 1.x?
    Does PTV provide a new version with CO2emissionclass as new parameter in the API? And when?
  • Has xServer 2.30 the COS2emissionclass already in the API?
Regards,
Volker

Re: New toll tarrifs for Germany (dec2023 / july2024)

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:51 am
by Joost
Admin Edit by Bernd (6.10.2023): Joost's statement below is not correct.
Therefore we decided to map all prices in DF5 to the "CO2-class 1” in xServer1.
Details are explained in this succeeding post.


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Joost:
Lauterfeld wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:42 am What does that mean exactly for on premise xRoute 1.x?
Does PTV provide a new version with CO2emissionclass as new parameter in the API? And when?
We are not going to support this new parameter in the xServer 1. The behind the scene data model that xServer 1 use doesn't give us room for quick expansion of the parameters. The tariffs xServer 1 will be using will use class 1 for euro 1 to 5 motors and class 2 for euro 6.
Lauterfeld wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:42 am Has xServer 2.30 the COS2emissionclass already in the API?
Yes, com.ptvgroup.xserver.vehicleprofile.Engine.co2EmissionClassEU is available in v2.30 (released August 2023). It is still experimental ATM but it is expected to move to the main branch in the next release.

Re: New toll tarrifs for Germany (dec2023 / july2024)

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 9:56 am
by Bernd Welter
According to the current plan we want to provide the new scenarios for the German National Toll in XServer Internet 2 on september 21st, 2023.

I'll check this with DATA and create a reminder to check the update then...

Re: New toll tarrifs for Germany (dec2023 / july2024)

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:55 am
by Bernd Welter
Some short update from Technical Product Manager regarding this topic.
There is a new detailed toll update available for Germany.
The layers are activated on Content Update Service (CUS) on September 19th, 2023.

Please Note: The layers are only referenced to World City Map 2023.2H and can only be used with this map.
Content information: Electric Vehicles (free of charge) were added.
  • The statement refers to "detailed toll" which is a xServer2 feature and not available through xServer1.
  • This update does NOT refer to the forecast data "German National Toll" so many of you are waiting for! The content reflects the "free of charge" tarifs for the current toll scenarios!
  • Right now (19.9.2023 / 10:45 CEST) the data is not yet replicated into PTV xerver2 INTERNET
Bernd

Re: New toll tarrifs for Germany (dec2023 / july2024)

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 1:17 pm
by Bernd Welter
Since last week the provisional toll tarrifs for the German National Toll are published on the PTV xServer Internet TEST 2 environment. The data is not yet on PROD !

Feel free to test and report feedback. See some examples below,

Bernd

Re: New toll tarrifs for Germany (dec2023 / july2024)

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 1:09 pm
by Bernd Welter
Tschacka!

Check our xserver blog post : Detailed Toll Forecast Germany is online for on premise installations with the 2023.2H map ...
your local CUS will download the scenarios:
http://127.0.0.1:50000/dashboard/Default.htm#Administration/ContentUpdateStatus.htm#detailedToll
http://127.0.0.1:50000/dashboard/Default.htm#Administration/ContentUpdateStatus.htm#detailedToll
Check your local management console for updates.

Bernd

Re: New toll tarrifs for Germany (dec2023 / july2024)

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:21 am
by Bernd Welter
Unfortunately Joost is wrong: EURO_6 is not mapped to "CO2-class 2"!

In xServer1 (based on so-called DF5 data format) we are not able to handle the CO2 emission classes.
Therefore we decided to map all prices in DF5 to the "CO2-class 1” in xServer1.
And there are prices for EURO_6 within "CO2-class 1”.
This info is also available through this article from the German Bundestag : Draft (check page 21)
TollCollect-Page21.png
Currently the emission classes 2-4 are only valid for EURO 6 or higher.
But that does not mean that theres no such thing as a “EURO_6 / CO2-class 1”.
The "CO2-class 5" applies for “vehicles without emissions”, e.g. EV or Hybrid (combined electric and hydrogen engine)

There will be another detailed webinar about the toll updates hosted by TollCollect on october, 10th, 2023.

Bernd